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(5207) kepenu
Reply 2008-01-13 16:09:47
OK. Tell me if you still need original WGS84 datum CLC-shp file!
In reply to (5205) popej 2008-01-13 14:13:39
(5205) popej
Reply 2008-01-13 14:13:39
I was shown other solution. There is free utility ogr2ogr that can convert datum for shp files. It's a part of FWTools, you can download it from here:

Example command for converting map looks like this:
ogr2ogr -t_srs "WGS84" -s_srs 100KME48N35.prj new_dir 100KME48N35.shp

After this you will get new shp files in directory new_dir. Map matchs very well existing GPS data.

I hope I will cope with this solution. I thank you for your willingness to help :-)

In reply to (5197) popej 2008-01-12 15:44:29
(5197) popej
Reply 2008-01-12 15:44:29
I see date and your nick on the right margin but for me it's not link but text only. The nick you put in your message is a link that leads to empty page with a title "My account".

Could you please contact me at: popej (at) friko onet pl ? Or the address from my account here if you can see it.
If possible I prefere original unmodified data.

Thanks in advance,
In reply to (5194) kepenu 2008-01-12 10:26:42
(5194) kepenu
Reply 2008-01-12 10:26:42
Look for a link like this near the right margin: kepenu then seek for a "Contact" link at the top of personal page.
Anyway I'll send you a link via mail.
Do you need original SHP or converted Polish format file?
In reply to (5190) popej 2008-01-11 21:51:48
(5190) popej
Reply 2008-01-11 21:51:48
I feel a bit silly, but I cannot find clickable nicks in this forum. Is this option available to common user?
In reply to (5187) kepenu 2008-01-11 21:12:03
(5187) kepenu
Reply 2008-01-11 21:12:03
Some months ago it was available on EEA home page but by now download contents has been changed.
Please contact me by clicking my nick, and choose Contact option. I can give you a personal link for downloading CLC2000 of Poland.
In reply to (5142) popej 2008-01-10 23:19:49
(5142) popej
Reply 2008-01-10 23:19:49
No, offset is not linerar, I can't see a simple solution.

Are CLC2000 data available in other format? Or did you convert it yourself?
Could you give me a hint? ;-)

In reply to (5136) kepenu 2008-01-10 21:58:33
(5136) kepenu
Reply 2008-01-10 21:58:33
Anyway, if offset is linear (not distorted), then you can move it to the proper position by Shift transformation tool of GPSmapedit software.
In reply to (5134) popej 2008-01-10 20:40:44
(5135) kepenu
Reply 2008-01-10 21:52:54
I have no good idea for importing ETRS89 Datum files but we have another format shp file of CLC2000 Poland. It has been converted yet and it's ready to be editable in OMP. As we hope in some weeks we can start with database data sharing, and this project will be more opened. Let me ask you for a little bit of patience, and we really hope that Poland can join this project soon.
In reply to (5134) popej 2008-01-10 20:40:44
(5134) popej
Reply 2008-01-10 20:40:44

I am impressed by your maps and the area you cover. Thank you for sharing your work :-)

I'm trying to use CLC2000 data for maps of Poland. Unfortunatelly I don't know how to convert ETRS89 datum into WGS84. My first attempt tu use Global Mapper shows about 2km offset between CLC2000 and GPS maps.

Could you suggest tools and best workflow for this conversion?

Thanks in advance,
(4623) Trackman
Reply 2007-12-10 11:59:11
Hi, currently you can see your own tracks. No one required direct track downloading before, but if several visitor ask this we'll find some solution to make this possible.
In reply to (4602) ihopulele 2007-12-09 07:08:57
(4602) ihopulele
Reply 2007-12-09 07:08:57
Very good map. I have just started using it and I like it. Will upload tracks.

Are tracks downloadable? I am not sure about "my tracks" page - I suppose it was intended for that.

Best regards,
Iulian Hopulele, Cluj (Kolozsvar) Romania

(4291) rlapadat
Reply 2007-11-15 14:32:35
Hi Peter,
Sorry about the confusion about the first paragraph- what I meant was essentially if there is an open format that can be readily read and manipulated in an automated fashion on my side. It would make all this multi-lingual stuff much easier compared to going and clicking on every single object in the map and change the name. I discovered yesterday how the Polish map format works and I suspected that it might be what your group uses internally- thanks for confirming that.
I understand that you have day jobs and promise to wait patiently.
In reply to (4281) peter68 2007-11-15 11:27:07
(4281) peter68
Reply 2007-11-15 11:27:07
Hi Razvan,

I don't understand exactly your first paragraph. But we work on a polish format file, and the final step the translated it to Garmin img format. So please don't use the img for the translation and other work.

Papa71 mentioned yesterday, our project is in the first stage. We have many of idea for the improving, but unfortunatelly, we have no enough spare time to work. We work on it as hobbies.
The one of the main targets, that we make a standard for the map drawing, and found a new infrastructure for the data storage.
After it, you will help me the easier way. Many thanks for your efforts, but please wait a bit, while we realise our plans.

Best regards,
In reply to (4259) rlapadat 2007-11-15 00:30:06
(4259) rlapadat
Reply 2007-11-15 00:30:06
In reply for paragraph 1: I already downloaded the data and played with it in GPSMapEdit. It can be translated/modified. Ideally it would be to carry all the editing in a batch fashion, rather than using the GUI- I know almost nothing about the Garmin IMG data model at this point; I feel that this would be the key issue. One of the main reasons for imprecision for Romanian territory is the lack of good public satelite data- I know they have sub-meter resolution (both NASA and ESA sell this) material for purchase but it is prohibitive in terms of cost when you talk about a whole country.

There people that would like to work on this in the Romanian hiking/climbing community at http://alpinet.org. I just dropped the question of having people volunteer to help your effort in the main hiking/climbing online community and there is a positive response. This forum specifically has quite a reasonable collection of track logs and POIs, as well as calibrated topo maps in raster format for certain mountainous areas.

Also, the Geography/Geodesy Institute in Bucharest has a few talented researchers contributing to the community- see here http://earth.unibuc.ro. Unfortunately it is only in Romanian but the data is definitely there...

Keep me posted when you think you are ready- I forgot to mention that I could probably put some time in the map drawing part as well.
Cheers and keep the good work,
In reply to (4247) papa71 2007-11-14 11:37:48
(4247) papa71
Reply 2007-11-14 11:37:48
The map of the Transylvanian region already now contains some data in
Rumanian. There is a POI in the centre of each city or village, which has a
Rumanian name; these are in theory searchable on Garmin maps. The area has a
Hungarian name though.

Unfortunately we haven't yet found a way to have simultaneous
(multi-lingual) attributes for objects on Garmin maps. Momentarily we lack
the capacity for creating several language versions of the same maps but it
is certainly in our medium-term plans. Once we have developed the
appropriate technology we will approach you for your assistance in

There is a historical reason for the current state of affairs. The project
has been spawn from a similar project in Hungary (see www.turistautak.hu)
and consequently at the moment all of our map drawers are Hungarian.

The reason for the silent forums is likewise to be found in the initial
stage of the project. We have a small team working on putting in place the
full infrastructure, which will enable anybody anywhere in the world to
contribute to the production of maps.

The page was maybe opened a bit prematurely under the pressure of our
Hungarian users; it is still under construction in a big scale.

Please bear with us for a little longer, until we will have completed the
infrastructure and will be able to indeed produce high quality,
multi-lingual maps.
In reply to (4187) rlapadat 2007-11-12 20:03:44
(4235) rlapadat
Reply 2007-11-13 16:22:04
It looks like the forum is quite inactive... Given all the effort invested by the few people here it would be beneficial to see some activity.
(4187) rlapadat
Reply 2007-11-12 20:03:44
Any email address to contact the developers? I have downloaded the Transilvania data and it looks v. good- thanks for all the effort. Excellent work!
The question I am having is regarding the language annotation of all the landmarks etc. It is in Hungarian- let's say I'm German or American and would like to use it; will be extremely hard to do anything. Also, there could be interest in having the landmarks in Romanian. I think there would be a lot of interest from the non-hungarian speking community too. The Garmin data available is based on older military topo data which is probably innacurate- not sure what your data sources fro the elevation/topo is. I could offer to volunteer some time with English, Romanian or German if needed. Thanks again for all the work and effort invested.
Razvan Lapadat
Indianapolis, USA
In reply to (3005) papa71 2007-10-02 22:29:44
(3005) papa71
Reply 2007-10-02 22:29:44
I hope you will like the new forum

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